tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8801866465903086287.post6375051771478732373..comments2023-12-24T12:37:29.532+05:00Comments on The Emergency Times: Response to Ghazala Minallah's letter to Benazir BhuttoThe Neem Revolutionhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10473285371250915033noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8801866465903086287.post-22307458989991213052007-12-06T19:06:00.000+05:002007-12-06T19:06:00.000+05:00wasiq Ali sahib, you have spoken very well ...wasiq Ali sahib, you have spoken very well for benazir bhutto , but i am a hard nut to crack so i will not buy it. Does poloitcs mean forget about principles and join the band wagon , if thats what it really implies then benazir is the most successful politician back home . If that is not the case, then Ghazala minallah needs a well deserved applause . Perhaps you may bother to let us know , why was benazir dumped by , Iftikhar Gilani ,Afteb sherpao , Faisal saleh hayat , her uncle Mumtaz Bhutto , Naseer ullah Babar ,and last but not the least , Farook Ahmad Laghari, of course Amin faheem has survived only because he owes his sole existence to " jo mohtarama kahee gee , hum wohi karayngay " if thats what mohtarama wants then i find no difference between her norm of politics and Parvaiz musharrafs. i wish if i could cast a spell of principles in pakistani politiciansAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8801866465903086287.post-82319215698156829372007-12-06T01:24:00.000+05:002007-12-06T01:24:00.000+05:00What Wasiq has said must not be dismissed cursivel...What Wasiq has said must not be dismissed cursively. In the heat of things, let us try to reflect on things coolly without being overly suspicious of leaders' intentions.<BR/><BR/>May be BB is right, and it would be best to do a repeat telecast of 1977. All opposition goes to polls. Then, PMLQ etc rig massively and win. Then, the combined opposition launches a resistance to protest rigging etc and then the regime is toppled.<BR/><BR/>Nonetheless, I consider this the next best choice. The best choice would for PPP to simply join those who are already in for protest. All regimes in Pakistan, no matter how dictatorial, are somewhat unstable. If both BB and Nawaz boycott the elections, then it wouldnt be hard to get rallies in the tens of thousands. Add to that the fact the the US wont back such an election if BB's out of it. These two factors - masses and US -will be sufficient to convince factions within the Army that it's high time and they need to hand over the show to someone else. <BR/><BR/>So if PPP sides with combined oppostion now, it seems almost certain that the regmime will be toppled in weeks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8801866465903086287.post-63791484887054518892007-12-06T00:27:00.000+05:002007-12-06T00:27:00.000+05:00we, the people of PAKISTAN are very well aware of ...we, the people of PAKISTAN are very well aware of long history of struggle for restoration of Democracy by pppp, which finally concluded in the big deal with Musi, the NRO, the notorious aggreement which is insult infact a slap on any judiciary system of the world.<BR/>even 2days there r news that pppp members are not aggring on the conditon of restoration of judiciary inspite of great insistence by PML-N and other APDM Parties<BR/>may ALLAH ALMighty give us moral courage to stand on truth firmly ignoring our personal benifitsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8801866465903086287.post-35680899919690448902007-12-05T22:22:00.000+05:002007-12-05T22:22:00.000+05:00Fascinating article! It's good to have insight int...Fascinating article! It's good to have insight into the 1985 boycott that the older people keep mentioning - it shows how a boycott can get messy.<BR/>But there is one fundamental difference between the '85 and today's election atmosphere: there was no street/people's movement or unrest around '85 election. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.)<BR/><BR/>If this is the fundamental difference between now and then - then perhaps political parties should read the mood of the voters as well. They will be the ones dishing out the votes.Looking for Ritzy Red Ghararashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13006489150199831982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8801866465903086287.post-34678059298883903912007-12-05T22:04:00.000+05:002007-12-05T22:04:00.000+05:00and how are we supposed to know that you are not o...and how are we supposed to know that you are not one of those mentioned ISI agents who you blame to have persuaded PPP to boycott elections in '85. It suited army then, but any attempt to divide civil society who are finally forging into one block, taking a firm stand on principles and making their voices heard will be and must be thwarted.<BR/><BR/>Let us believe in ourselves this time rather than depending on political parties who all have some personal interest somewhere.<BR/><BR/>I, for one, would rather take up the challenge to do it myself, than to leave it on others and hope against hope for things to change. No, No more. For once, I see like minded people waking up and willing to work for this cause. God bless us all in these challenging times!!! No more army cantonments please !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8801866465903086287.post-30738918818737042952007-12-05T20:03:00.000+05:002007-12-05T20:03:00.000+05:00I do agree that boy-cotting the elections would gi...I do agree that boy-cotting the elections would give free reign to the govt parties...not sure about backing PPP though!! everything ppp does looks stage planned! in any case, whether or not parties boycott elections, the outcome is likely going to be the same, given the ease with which elections are engineered every time here. the students should remain apolitical in any case i feel.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14472454377615368775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8801866465903086287.post-48571013614886211782007-12-05T17:35:00.000+05:002007-12-05T17:35:00.000+05:00A very considered article.A very considered article.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05382478348854811432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8801866465903086287.post-103416661789628412007-12-05T16:44:00.000+05:002007-12-05T16:44:00.000+05:00I think Wasiq you do have a point here but i wonde...I think Wasiq you do have a point here but i wonder why the only main demand Benzair put forward in her deal with the government was the cases against her. In case she was already winning them and as you claim, she did get them cleared by herself, why she made herself and the NRO a scapegoat for it.<BR/>I mean i am sure she didnt do it for the betterment of all other political parties or for that matter for MQM but for her own party and to be specific for her own self. <BR/>We all know how the world looked like in her previous two terms and how much independence she gave to the civil society. Trust me i would still say Musharraf gave more freedom to the media in the beginning then what Benazir has done in her two terms though she was the so called Political party.<BR/>Lastly, we all are aware of the way politicians were jailed in her government and how independent the media was!<BR/>And as far as the sacrifices are concerned of the 80's, let me make it clear, it was the ordinary party workers who were taking the brunt as again Benazir spent most of her time in UK and only returned when Zia was almost gone.<BR/>This time again she went into self imposed exile and only returned, when the deal was signed. Where was all her political responsibilities and all her sense of BIG Brother (sister in her case), for the past ten years when she was flying between london, new york and dubai? <BR/>I think Wasiq you are good in writing and may be you convinced few but trust me i just look at not their promises but at their history and their present deeds. Dont tell me that if we elect her this time, she will change from demon into angel and make Pakistan the asian tiger. <BR/>For God! She blame Musharraf for not quitting the post of Army Chief while look at her, she has herself occupied the post of Party chief for life time. She is a feudal and she believes in feudalism. No matter what she preaches, she cant practically implement it on herself and not to talk about her doing that in the whole country. <BR/>I would still go with Imran Khan for atleast he has done more with his resources then what Benazir did with her two time premiership to this country. <BR/>Regards,<BR/>M J K<BR/>http://thelandofpure.blogspot.com/Guruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015637783313491614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8801866465903086287.post-73330320013134992012007-12-05T13:30:00.000+05:002007-12-05T13:30:00.000+05:00Assuming it can be proved that the elections are r...Assuming it can be proved that the elections are rigged, one wonders how will the political parties manage to launch an anti-rigging campaign while they fear lauching street protests against illegitimate assemblies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8801866465903086287.post-91486251211254838022007-12-05T12:19:00.000+05:002007-12-05T12:19:00.000+05:00Temporal's comment above reflets the arrogance of ...Temporal's comment above reflets the arrogance of some educated Pakistani civil society members. It is okay for anyone among us to think or say that we do not approve a particular politician and then list reasons for the same. but to be abusive and dismissive about the leader of Pakistan's largest political party shows ignorance of politics.<BR/><BR/>There is a reason Aitzaz Ahsan, and many other committed to the cause of democracy, remain with the PPP and support Benazir Bhutto. We should try and understand their reasons, not resort to abuse and angry condemnations of the kind Musharraf and Shujaat engage in.<BR/><BR/>wasiq Ali makes some importnat points above. they must be considered in the same civil tone that Wasiq has employed.<BR/><BR/>Among US newspapers, the New York times has been most critical of Benazir Bhutto. This latest story from two New York Times reporters from rural Pakistan shows how, and why, Bhutto and the PPP still remain potent. It is not the description of any ideal but it reflects a reality we too must embrace:<BR/><BR/>http://iht.com/articles/2007/12/04/asia/village.phpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8801866465903086287.post-10974904736203606952007-12-05T07:16:00.000+05:002007-12-05T07:16:00.000+05:00Aitzaz Ahsan is languishing in a subjail. Munir Ma...Aitzaz Ahsan is languishing in a subjail. Munir Malik ultimately d b of no use for the movement now because of his physical state (created with the help of government). Justice (R) Tariq is still braving it out. Same is the case with Ali Ahmed Kurd et al. CJ Iftikhar is still in communicado. <BR/><BR/>WHAT IS MOHTARMA DOING FOR THEM! NOTHING???<BR/><BR/>The article written by this fellow must b applauded. The PPPPs themselves acknowledge that they d only win in interior sindh and then change the system from within! How? please explain that d the current regime allow them the majority??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8801866465903086287.post-32061842015175354362007-12-05T05:43:00.000+05:002007-12-05T05:43:00.000+05:00please do not mention BeZamir and Aitezaz in the s...please do not mention BeZamir and Aitezaz in the same breath;)<BR/><BR/>The Bezamir Chairperson for Life Zardari nee Bhutto should first institute democracy in PeePeePee before seeking the same route for her country<BR/><BR/>the odds for that happening are about the same as pigs flying:)temporalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18142207234611472045noreply@blogger.com